tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post3604088766605588585..comments2023-10-22T06:42:51.797-04:00Comments on Students of Jesus: Surpassing PeaceRay Hollenbachhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08035600094853593399noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-63235121502010466822011-10-07T09:05:49.194-04:002011-10-07T09:05:49.194-04:00You are more precise than me: I was looking for an...You are more precise than me: I was looking for an artistic way to express busy-ness of heart and schedule. Prior to the the industrial revolution entire communities operated on a communal rhythm. Yes, everyone has expended "energy."<br /><br />As to the source of peace, let's just say no one understands it until after we walk in it.rayhollenbachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-60533415669234532272011-10-07T07:18:11.092-04:002011-10-07T07:18:11.092-04:00It is not clear to me that the peace in either kin...It is not clear to me that the peace in either kind of situation is different; they are both supra-rational; i.e. they are not derived from rational understanding. Whether you "feel" it because you were obedient - whether it was a reward, or you simply felt it because you were positioned by your obedience to feel it -- or "feel" it because He paid it forward to you; it is still supra-rational. But by using lingo like Him paying it forward I am tipping my hand as somewhat Arminian. Even as a "fruit" of the Spirit it is because you are part of the Vine. <br /><br />In your essay you talk about this age (was not the pre-mechanical and technological age also like this?) being one of being busy, and also you speak of our need to "understand" -- to me these are distractors from the question of Peace. I may not understand a thing, but I don't think His stamp on me - the way He made us; desiring understanding -- works against that Peace. But I don't think you meant to say just that.Cloukusnoreply@blogger.com