tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post912702217190313892..comments2023-10-22T06:42:51.797-04:00Comments on Students of Jesus: The Tension of Love and Mystery: Why we don't have to know it allRay Hollenbachhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08035600094853593399noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-78120458602197103182011-09-21T17:11:28.300-04:002011-09-21T17:11:28.300-04:00Oh yes, I totally agree with that! :)Oh yes, I totally agree with that! :)Jessica Culpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-4093789450417446262011-09-21T17:05:16.436-04:002011-09-21T17:05:16.436-04:00Thanks, Jessica. You but: we have to trust. I also...Thanks, Jessica. You but: we have to trust. I also like your observation that you should draw on your experiences. I think the person with a heartfelt experience is never at the mercy of a person with an intellectual argument. Perhaps you can encourage you new Christian friends to seek "knowing (and experiencing) Him" above knowing the answers.rayhollenbachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-32489509624484858782011-09-21T09:25:58.360-04:002011-09-21T09:25:58.360-04:00It's so hard with some of my new Christian fri...It's so hard with some of my new Christian friends who are seeking to know it all. Especially one, who was taught "all the bad verses." I want to have all the answers for those who are seeking, but indeed, many times I cannot. I can only take what has resonated in my heart from my experience (life, God's word, some revelations that have been impressed upon me). I have to trust God enough to believe He is showing me all I need to know at this time in my life. :) Blessings.Jessica Culpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-58021040953304882212011-09-18T22:45:58.093-04:002011-09-18T22:45:58.093-04:00It looks to me like you're still learning, Ann...It looks to me like you're still learning, Ann.--and we will each have an eternity to explore more about Him!rayhollenbachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-30576506807196378722011-09-18T19:15:13.937-04:002011-09-18T19:15:13.937-04:00I loved this..I don't want to get to old to le...I loved this..I don't want to get to old to learnAnn Tuckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-62592900755053398902011-09-18T18:14:55.142-04:002011-09-18T18:14:55.142-04:00Ah, so you've a bit of the smartypants in ya, ...Ah, so you've a bit of the smartypants in ya, too. Likin' this better and better. (But I won't say omigosh ever again here, that's for sure) :>)Diana trautweinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-55345629543053913722011-09-18T18:07:17.258-04:002011-09-18T18:07:17.258-04:00Omigosh, thanks so much, Diana! [Tell all your fri...Omigosh, thanks so much, Diana! [Tell all your friends :-) ]<br /><br />You're always welcome here.rayhollenbachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-2186367521362164652011-09-18T17:02:39.046-04:002011-09-18T17:02:39.046-04:00Omigosh, I love this, love it. I'm here from R...Omigosh, I love this, love it. I'm here from RHE's Sunday superlatives and I'm stickin' around for a while. This is just wonderful writing, clear thinking, great insights. Thanks so, so much. I read some of the same blogs you do, but don't think I've ever seen your name in a comment - I'll be on the lookout, because I value what you have to say. And you say it so wellDiana trautweinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-54971731648066656572011-09-17T11:38:28.719-04:002011-09-17T11:38:28.719-04:00How can we get to "understanding" apart ...How can we get to "understanding" apart form questions and wondering? It's unfortunate that your particular story includes judgment and condemnation.<br /><br />Indeed, we are encouraged to ponder, and to try to "figure things out." What I had hoped to address is the necessity to add humility, wonder and awe to the mix. Beware anyone who tries to figure out God in the same way one figures out a calculus problem. In my opinion the foundation for study is an understanding of our own limitations and the peace that should flow from the realization that "we know in part."<br /><br />Peace to you, Charles!rayhollenbachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-30932508522748032652011-09-17T11:38:06.700-04:002011-09-17T11:38:06.700-04:00Thanks, Rachel. I need the reminder that even &quo...Thanks, Rachel. I need the reminder that even "great" men like John the Baptist struggled with seasons of change.rayhollenbachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-45823020448418080762011-09-17T11:05:16.308-04:002011-09-17T11:05:16.308-04:00the mystery/wisdom - Jesus talked about - there wa...the mystery/wisdom - Jesus talked about - there was a change of season coming about - with JEsus coming into the picture - John being the last of the prophets, he prepared the way for Jesus, now he had to move out of the picture - and he was not ready for the change and so got offended when JEsus did not save him- Jesus was bringing in the season of grace - we tend to not be ready for season of changes and we wonder what God is doing when he takes people, things, jobs out of our lives ???Rachelphilipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-6681643484435526852011-09-15T11:59:30.698-04:002011-09-15T11:59:30.698-04:00How can we get to "understanding" apart ...How can we get to "understanding" apart form questions and wondering? It's unfortunate that your particular story includes judgment and condemnation.<br /><br />Indeed, we are encouraged to ponder, and to try to "figure things out." What I had hoped to address is the necessity to add humility, wonder and awe to the mix. Beware anyone who tries to figure out God in the same way one figures out a calculus problem. In my opinion the foundation for study is an understanding of our own limitations and the peace that should flow from the realization that "we know in part."<br /><br />Peace to you, Charles!rayhollenbachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5693617853908508572.post-132814232573887112011-09-15T11:02:15.538-04:002011-09-15T11:02:15.538-04:00Pastors who condemned me for wondering about fossi...Pastors who condemned me for wondering about fossils and mandatory-tithing-or-God-will-get-you did not "love" me like God does. I don't think I was sinning by trying to figure all this out. Figuring out that God did love me was the first step for me to coming back to Him; I had to reject the condemnation spoken over and to me by those men.<br /><br />Your comment about John provokes contemplation ... perhaps the "children" are the yet-to-be (re)born believers which he (John) saw coming ( ..look, the one who takes away the sin!...).Charlesnoreply@blogger.com